looking for some advice!!!

Big D

Turbo Snail
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#1
Were up to 6 tanks now pushing about 350 gallons of water now... just ran some tests but am a little stumped on what's going on with my frog spawn????
Ph: 7.8
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
Ammonia: 0
Calcium: 560
water change three days ago 10 percent
salinity:2.5 2.6
looking for any help?
 

xxHLTxx

Detritus
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#4
has to be flow and or lighting intensity if theres others that are fine. otherwise id say test magnesium because that affects LPS as well
 

Big D

Turbo Snail
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#5
I have two 650 hydors and a Rio 900 out of the sump in a 57 gallon he is front and center waving in the flow it is a little less flow than the other but still in good flow. I've had him for about two weeks now. Tank has been solid for a year now.
 

Big D

Turbo Snail
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#6
The tank is full of lps corals two lobos a tracophelia duncans etc.... just very strange everything else is doing great!
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
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What did it do before it lost those heads? They can get a bacterial infection that has the potential for spreading throughout that colony and to other euphyllia in the tank. I would frag off any heads that look like they are struggling...might also pay to turn off your pumps and siphon off any decaying heads before moving the colony so stuff doesn't get blown across the tank.

Look up "brown jelly disease"...if those heads did kinda turn to a brown gunk as they receded and disappeared I'd frag off those dead heads run some carbon, and keep your colonies separated if the other one looks as healthy as it does in that pic.

http://reefdreams.de/lang_eng/info_13_eng.html
 
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Big D

Turbo Snail
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#8
Thats what's it looks like its doing three totally lost and two more on their way starting today.... what's the best way to frag out those heads?
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
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#9
I'd turn off your pumps, siphon off the decay, then remove the colony.

Depends on what you have laying around for fragging...branching hammer can be fairly fragile...I've fragged off a head in the past just using bone cutters (which were actually just "heavy duty" toenail clippers from Walgreens). I've also had luck with just a pair of dikes I had laying around for electrical jobs. If you have a dremel with a cutting tool...that'd be an easy option as well, just make sure you keep the skeleton cool...go slow and keep it wet.
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
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Honestly I would remove the dead heads as well as the ones that show signs of declining on that same colony. Chances are they are on their way out if you are losing them that quickly...leaving them in the tank may risk that infection spreading to your other colony.

I've seen numerous threads on attempted dips to save infected euphyllia...and it seems like once it shows signs of infection it's best to just frag and remove anything that looks bad. Success rates for treatment seem low, and since research points the finger at vibrio vulnificus bacteria infection being the cause...anything less than an antibiotic that targets gram negative bacteria is unlikely to work.

Ciprofloxacin works well against vibrio and targets gram negative bacteria...and it might be relatively easy to find. Other antibiotics they use for vibrio vulnificus are going to be next to impossible to obtain. If you want to try to save any struggling heads I'd try the cipro as a dip first...but no idea on the dose you would need for an effective dip though. I can tell you that Furan-2 is supposed to be good against gram negative bacteria....I tried it but it did nothing to save a wall hammer that got infected a while back.

Do a nice large water change (20-30%), run some fresh carbon...and keep an eye on your other colonies. If it is brown jelly disease, hopefully you're able to keep it from spreading. I had a little 28g nanocube and only lost one colony (wall hammer), and a single head on a neighboring colony when I dealt with it...so it's not impossible to stop.
 
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