Painting glass

Miah2bzy

Nurse Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#1
Wanting to paint the back panel on my glass tank black. Any suggestions on brands, latex?, spray paint, etc.?
 

opakapaka

Tang
M.A.S.C Club Member
#2
ive always spray painted mines, just good old krylon
 

Munch

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#4
I did Krylon, too permanent.

Go with Plasti-Dip. Easy to remove if you change your mind.

[video=youtube;fXTkpHw7eO0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXTkpHw7eO0[/video]
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Miah2bzy

Nurse Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#5
I'll price out plastidip and vinyl and see what works for my budget. Thanks guys!
 

Miah2bzy

Nurse Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#7
65 so 3'x18" I think
 

SkyDiv3r17

Butterfly Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#9
Lol plastisip would work great. And one $6 will be plenty.

You can also use vinyl if you can't move the tank top the garage to paint.
 

MuralReef

Administrator
Staff member
M.A.S.C Club Member
M.A.S.C. B.O.D.
MASC Vice-President
#10
I would paint a panel and place it behind the tank. I read an article in TFH years ago about painting the glass directly reducing the amount of light reflected into the tank. What the article stated was that with a regular glass panel the outside layer of glass reflects the light but when it's painted the paint absorbs the light.
 

TheRealChrisBrown

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
ex-officio
#11
I bought a sample can of latex paint at Home Depot for $3, was enough to paint the back panel 4 or 5 times with a disposable foam roller kit also from Home Depot, like another $1.50. The foam roller was thin enough and my arms long enough that I painted it in place...I almost didn't get any blue paint on the wall :)
 

zombie

Dolphin
M.A.S.C Club Member
#14
MuralReef;327563 said:
I would paint a panel and place it behind the tank. I read an article in TFH years ago about painting the glass directly reducing the amount of light reflected into the tank. What the article stated was that with a regular glass panel the outside layer of glass reflects the light but when it's painted the paint absorbs the light.
Do you have a link? I dont understand how that would make a difference from a physics point of view.
 

SynDen

Administrator
Staff member
M.A.S.C Club Member
M.A.S.C. B.O.D.
M.A.S.C President
M.A.S.C Webmaster
#15
zombie;327780 said:
Do you have a link? I dont understand how that would make a difference from a physics point of view.
I have also read some articles about that, and yes if the back panel is painted it it tends to absorb the light by a significant amount and drops the par value around the back of the tank quite a bit. But that can be avoid by apply the background or paint to another layer and then attaching that to the back. Ill see if I can find the article its on advanced aquarist somewhere.
 

takayan

Angel Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#16
I read the article before as well. My understanding is that painting the back panel from the outside is ok. However, if you use colored back panel, then PAR value is decreased because less or no reflection from the back panel.
 

SynDen

Administrator
Staff member
M.A.S.C Club Member
M.A.S.C. B.O.D.
M.A.S.C President
M.A.S.C Webmaster
#17
Ya it has to do with the fact that if the back glass isn't painted and instead another panel or something is covering the back, or even if nothing is one the back, the light waves pass through the glass and bounce back into the tank, but if it is painted then the light doesn't pass all the way through it and is absorbed and results in a drop in par values. They tested with multiple different colors painted on the back and surprisingly even with blue or white there was still a drop in par
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#19
zombie;327780 said:
Do you have a link? I dont understand how that would make a difference from a physics point of view.
I don't have a link...but it does make sense. When light hits the surface of the glass panel inside the tank, one of two things happen, it is either reflected or refracted. A portion of the light hitting that surface on the inside of the tank will be reflected since it it is unpainted, another portion passes through that outer surface, gets refracted, and travels through the glass.

The light that travels through the glass hits the other surface of the glass on the outside of the tank...a portion of that light is reflected back into the tank, and a portion is refracted and allowed to pass completely through the glass. If this surface is painted, you don't get any reflection (or refraction for that matter)...the light is absorbed so you do in fact get less light re-entering the tank. I haven't seen the numbers to see how much of an effect this actually has...overall it's likely a small percentage (and depends on the clarity of the glass), but it makes sense.

Painting an additional panel and putting it on the outside of the tank only absorbs the light that would have passed through the glass completely. So you're not really losing PAR by adding a painted panel on the back of the tank.

Not something I've ever considered before, but pretty interesting overall. As an aside...on my next build I plan on putting together a light box behind the tank :) This probably won't come together for at least a year tho :p
 
Last edited by a moderator:

zombie

Dolphin
M.A.S.C Club Member
#20
I still dont get how that would reduce the par. From optics theory there is a reflection coefficient anytime the media the light is travelling through changes. Air essentially acts as empty space and does not change the reflection coefficient. If a panel background is the exact same color and shinyness, its reflection and absorbsion would be identical, and therefore the only difference between the two cases is a very small difference in air gap. I can ask some physics professors at mines, but I dont think it would make any difference at all if the panel was coated with the same paint.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Top