Permanent scaping

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If I had time when I set up initially I would have probably used PVC or acrylic rods. Mine is just stacked with some pieces epoxied together.
 

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We went semi permanent with reef-safe concrete holding the bigger rocks together. Just don't expect to do it in a couple of hours on the day you fill your tank. It takes time and planning, and probably a few zip ties. You will want to somewhat blend it into the rocks to get a more natural look. You don't have to overfuss, though, because it'll get covered over with coralline and stuff fairly quickly.

Having drystacked, as well as trying rods and pipe, this was the only way to go. Drystacks are a royal PITA, and they can fall down very easily, demolishing coral and potentially killing fish, nems, or clams. Drilling into rock to place rods? Good luck. Either the rock is too hard to drill, or it breaks into multiple pieces. Hiding pipe? No thank you.
 

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Mines is permanent i use nyos cement but it works better if u dryscape i im planning on using macro rock cement on my next build on the 180 more bang for the bucks
 

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I tried using it on live rock but once the cement is in the water it just get all cloudy i wouldn't recommend it i dont think it would hold as well
 

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Rumen;365557 said:
I tried using it on live rock but once the cement is in the water it just get all cloudy i wouldn't recommend it i dont think it would hold as well
I know you can't use the cement. What I was wondering is how you would do a permanent aquascape with live rock?
 

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MuralReef;365562 said:
I know you can't use the cement. What I was wondering is how you would do a permanent aquascape with live rock?
Only way I could think of is acrylic rods and/or epoxy since they limit the amount of air exposure quite a bit compared to cement that needs 24 hours to cure in air.
 

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Are you doing a barebottom or DSB?
 

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I am in the process of building my rock sculpture pieces and they will all be mostly permanent. I made the pieces modular, so they can come apart in sections, but otherwise they are a big solid piece.
I made a pvc support structure, which is the part that can come apart, and for the mortar I use a combo of white Portland cement mixed with crush oyster, clam and crushed coral for the aggregate.

I start slow with the base and build up around the pvc. I have been taking pics, Ill post up later, just need to dl them from my slr
 

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SynDen;365596 said:
I am in the process of building my rock sculpture pieces and they will all be mostly permanent. I made the pieces modular, so they can come apart in sections, but otherwise they are a big solid piece.
I made a pvc support structure, which is the part that can come apart, and for the mortar I use a combo of white Portland cement mixed with crush oyster, clam and crushed coral for the aggregate.

I start slow with the base and build up around the pvc. I have been taking pics, Ill post up later, just need to dl them from my slr
Hell ya i want to see some pictures. ..
 

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Alright some pics.
I'll do more later once I complete some of these. The main structure is mostly done and there will be a third sculpture that I havent started yet. But once these are done I will break them down and they will go into curing tanks and hopefully be good and ready for the main tank once I get to that piece.

The basic pvc support.



Start with the base and build up




 
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