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Here is the bottom line as far as I see it. The original poster/ person giving up the dbtc can do as he or she sees fit with it. Meaning if they want to make a rule of any sort that's their prerogative. If they want to limit it to members, or only to beginners, or to people with so many posts, they can do that. Again ultimately its their frag that they are being kind enough to pass on for others to experience and grow and hopefully continue on the chain. So if they choose to give the frag to a dbtc hog or to pass on the dbtc hog and go onto the next person, again that's their decision and it should be respected. Hopefully we are all on the same page now and those that have been bending/ disobeying the rules have a better understanding of the general guidelines.
I say we all go stalk our now lights out tanks and try to count how many copeopods we can count
I say we all go stalk our now lights out tanks and try to count how many copeopods we can count
My biggest problem right now is that there are a few people who try and snatch up EVERY DBTC, often without even reading the rules or requirements. A friendly reminder is that DBTC is not for stocking your empty tank, it is not a free coral Free for all, and please, don't be a DBTC hog! If your tank is new and newly cycled (less than perhaps 6 months) you shouldn't take anything above beginner corals, if you take any at all! This program is about propagating coral, not stocking tanks. You must be SURE your tank will grow out the coral and that you will be able to put it back in to the program. I have noticed some rudeness in the DBTC forms as of late, some of it is directed at DBTC hogs or people who do not read the rules, YOU WILL GET CALLED OUT by people if you don't respect the program. I have received rude PM's from people about DBTC's I have posted, either because I have not responded to an email asking for coral (THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS ARE IN THE POST, JUST WIN IT!) or from people who feel they should have won a DBTC instead of another member. Please remember that the giver ultimately has the final say in who gets a DBTC, They do not OWE you anything for being first and may, at their discrepancy, choose not to award the coral to you (maybe you were rude once, are a hog, don't read the rules, or whatever). I have one guy I have Banned from my DBTC's (he has been informed by PM), yet every time I post one he tries to get it, PM's me and does not read the rules and has obviously not read the PM I sent him explaining the situation. I guess the main point I am trying to make is be respectful, READ EVERYTHING, and UNDERSTAND what you have read. I know I am beating a dead horse and some of these points have benn made on this same page, but I'm really getting fed up, sorry for the rant!
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I stocked a lot of my tank with DBTCs, in fact, my first 5+ corals were all DBTCs. I think it's a good way for newbies to see if their tank is ready, rather than having to plop down cash on corals that might not (but should) survive. No where does it say your tank has to be cycled for a year, and quite frankly I think that's a ludicrous suggestion. My tank has been up for only 3.5 months and all of my DBTCs have survived and will be put back into the community. I understand where you're coming from about not hogging all the DBTCs, but if the rules don't specify, you should be able to claim it if you want it, provided you meet the rules. That's the kicker though, you have to actually read the rules, be respectful, and not post when you clearly don't meet the requirements. As long as you're being respectful, following the rules, and otherwise being an upstanding member of the community, you should be able to claim whatever DBTC you want.
I stated that people with newly cycled tanks shouldn't take more advanced corals. Imagine you decide to frag an expensive coral, you place it in the extreme corals section and somebody with a new tank snags it to "test their tank". There are plenty of $5 frags out there to try your hand at keeping a type of coral. As a farmer I would rather sell the coral and put the cash in my pocket, than save somebody $$ on a Guinea pig coral, let that coral go to an established tank. I post Beginner corals in the beginner section.
DBTC Page Quote
"standard Coral" This category contains the majority of corals in the program, including SPS, LPS, etc. Members propagating this category of coral have a system capable of handling the coral they are asking for (i.e. established system of 4 months +, and satisfying lighting/water requirements for these corals).
"Extreme coral" This category contains rare or normally very expensive corals (for example, bubblegum watermelon chalice). Members propagating this level of DBTC coral have a system capable of handling any coral they are asking for (i.e. established aquarium with lighting/water parameters suitable for these challenging specimens).
DBTC Page Quote
"standard Coral" This category contains the majority of corals in the program, including SPS, LPS, etc. Members propagating this category of coral have a system capable of handling the coral they are asking for (i.e. established system of 4 months +, and satisfying lighting/water requirements for these corals).
"Extreme coral" This category contains rare or normally very expensive corals (for example, bubblegum watermelon chalice). Members propagating this level of DBTC coral have a system capable of handling any coral they are asking for (i.e. established aquarium with lighting/water parameters suitable for these challenging specimens).
Alright, in the end the giver of corals has the right to do whatever they want with their coral. If you're the first to meet thei rules for that coral but they deem that someone else deserves they DON'T have to give it to you, it's their coral they can do as they wish. We also have to remember that if at anytime the givers coral dies or something they jump to the front of the line for a frag back. If they feel you might not be a reliable source to get that coral, it's up to them.
If you're being a hog you probably will be called out! In the end this program is NOT a way to freely stock your tank at your leisure. This is a way for people to diversify their tanks, for givers to have coral backups, and for reefers to interact with each other. If you can't play by the rules, don't participate until you can.
If you're being a hog you probably will be called out! In the end this program is NOT a way to freely stock your tank at your leisure. This is a way for people to diversify their tanks, for givers to have coral backups, and for reefers to interact with each other. If you can't play by the rules, don't participate until you can.
Man how things have changed since I got into this club. When I first started I wanted to go pick up the corals I wanted to check out peoples tanks (and still do!). I could not wait to give back to the program. Thats all I could talk about to my wife I can not wait to give back to the people that gave to me!
Now I dont want to give because people dont want to come look at my tank, dont want to come over and make sure I dont have flat worms or pests. IMO if you dont care about your tank enough to look at mine then I dont want my coral in your tank!
But for the most part Im laughing....
Now I dont want to give because people dont want to come look at my tank, dont want to come over and make sure I dont have flat worms or pests. IMO if you dont care about your tank enough to look at mine then I dont want my coral in your tank!
But for the most part Im laughing....