RPS All Out vs Evil Furry Critters

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For those of you that followed my earlier thread regarding the zoa eating nudibranchs, I thought I'd do a follow up.
After putting my entire zoa population in a quarantine tank, and adding a little Bayer every day for a couple of weeks to kill the little... ummm... you get the idea. Anyway, I put the carbon filter back on and let them sit a couple more days, then rinsed them in RODI and put them in my tank.
Guess what I noticed the other day.
Yeah. Closed up zoas and 2 furry little evil creatures.

So I decided that I need to do one of 3 things:
1- Give up hope on keeping anything oceanic alive, and tear down my tank completely.
2- Throw out all of my zoas. Possibly all of my corals entirely, and go the FOWLR route. (Shark tank, perhaps?)
3- Try the new bottle of RPS All Out that I just got.

So, back up went my little coral QT tank, and the dipping began. I measured carefully and followed the dosing directions in a small bucket of tank water. I love the smell of tea tree oil, which is good, because this stuff is definitely loaded with it. Frags went in the little bucket of blue water first. Then they got rinsed in RODI before going back into the coral QT. After that, a couple of colonies at a time. I did leave the colonies in the dip longer than the prescribed 15 minutes, because they were bigger and more convoluted. Then RODI dip and back into the QT.
I found 12 dead nudibranchs in the little bucket.
I didn't take the time to wait for the water to get warm and toasty for the corals, but they're already starting to open up again, some of them.
I will leave them in there for a couple of weeks to make sure it kills the eggs. If more appear in the next couple of weeks, I may revisit options 1 and 2. The last few days of the QT I'll use some carbon to make sure the blue juice is totally gone so I don't lose Mario Andretti (my cleaner shrimp).
I will keep updating this thread as the situation progresses.
 

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RPS All Out vs Evil Furry Critters

Wow. Thanks for the update.
 

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great info! please keep updating on the RPS. wish someone had redbugs they could experiment with....
 

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Re: RPS All Out vs Evil Furry Critters

So I rinsed my hands and dried them each time, but my skin still reacted to it. Around my eyes is weird and itchy, and so are my hands.

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Normally my skin is fine with tea tree oil. I use it on zits all the time. So there's something else in it that I'm reacting to. That said, if anyone's skin is gonna react to anything, it'd be mine.
 
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Smiley;241951 said:
great info! please keep updating on the RPS. wish someone had redbugs they could experiment with....
just nuked the crap out of redbugs on some of my SPS with the Bayer stuff. sps are all healthy, redbugs are all gone.
 

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Bayer killed the adult nudis, but they keep coming back, so I'm not sure if it kills the eggs or not. It's also possible that they lay eggs on the rocks, which might mean that I have to bleach the rocks and start over with those.
 
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dont know about eggs, but I havent seen any bugs for 2 weeks, and i would think the eggs would have hatched by now...
 

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how long did you dose the bayer? 2 weeks? or longer? whats the life cycle of the eggs? I knew they were planning on changing the formula to the bayer a while back, i wonder if it happened already....
 

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Smiley;242064 said:
how long did you dose the bayer? 2 weeks? or longer? whats the life cycle of the eggs? I knew they were planning on changing the formula to the bayer a while back, i wonder if it happened already....
who are you talking to, Smiley? LOL
 
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Smiley;242064 said:
how long did you dose the bayer? 2 weeks? or longer? whats the life cycle of the eggs? I knew they were planning on changing the formula to the bayer a while back, i wonder if it happened already....
i did the bayer once. its been about 2 weeks since i did it and no signs of any red bugs. dont think ill do it again unless i see anything pop up again.
 

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Haha I was actually asking Cindy... I know that it takes 2 dips two weeks apart for redbugs, wondering if the nudi has the same hatch cycle.....

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The zoas lived in Bayer (I added a little bit more each day to the coral QT tank) for about 3 weeks. Either their life cycle is longer than that, or there were hidden zoas in my tank that were being held hostage by roving gangs of nudis.
 

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I've all but decided once and for all that RPS All Out is essentially ineffective against zoa eating nudi eggs. After weeks in QT, with both dips and long term exposure to both Bayer and RPS (not at the same time), I decided it was time to put my zoas back in my DT. I pulled 3 large colonies out of the QT, rinsed them with RODI, and took them upstairs. Upon inspection, I found a nudi on 2 of the 3 colonies. I promptly took them back downstairs, removed the carbon from the hang on back filter, and dosed the tank with RPS. Again. I'll let the RPS circulate in that tank for a few more days, then I'll do a 100% water change. Then I'll run carbon for a few days to pull out the RPS. If I find another living nudi on anything in that tank, I am going to throw out every zoa in it and start completely over. Then I'll write the manufacturer and explain to them that their product does NOT live up to their promises.
 

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Revive seems to kill the nudi, but I am pretty sure it doesn't touch the eggs. I got a colony that was infested with multiple colors of nudity and a 15 minute soak in revive killed a ton of them. About 3 days later I repeated the dip and killed a few more. I haven't seen any in 2 weeks so I will remove them from qt. In another week.

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They were prolly all the same nudi, just eating off of different zoas. When the nudis eat a zoa, they absorb the zooanthellae and turn the color of that zoa.
Bayer and RPS kill the adults quite handily, but they don't do anything to the eggs, IMO.
 
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