To glue or not

kmellon

Butterfly Fish
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#1
Looking for opinions and experiences with gluing your rock scape together.

Do you glue, if so what did you use?
Hindsight?

Do you dry stack?

Don't be shy, we've all made mistakes. Let's share. :)
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
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#2
My first scape I just tossed LR in the tank and stacked it so that it was stable. In hindsight, I would have used putty since I did have occasional shifting at times when I was working in the tank. 2nd tank I used a combination of putty and super glue to create an arch and pillar...I'm much happier with the results. There are a few rocks in that system that aren't attached via putty, and I'm wishing I had just stuck those together as well.

I could see it being annoying if you ever had to remove a few rocks or break the tank down to pull a fish, but I'm definitely a fan of the putty+glue option. I think on the next build I'm just going to go ahead and use epoxy.
 

DyM

Sting ray
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#3
Over time, Epoxy and putty breaks down. I found it best to work with the rock and puzzle it together so it interlocks. I have very little puddy on my whole arch since it interlocks providing support. Just my 2 cents....
 

kmellon

Butterfly Fish
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#7
Thanks for the information. I'm planning on using some large base rock on the bottom before i add sand and then build up from there. where is the best place to find acrylic rods? I've used the stack process in my 29, but now I can't easily get into the tank without possibly toppling the stack over. So i wanted to do it more logically in the 120.
 

FinsUp

According to my watch, the time is now.
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#10
Just 'scaped my 180. I was planning on using the marco rocks concretelike mix, but it turned out pretty solid without it. The key is to stack smart. Big flat heavy rocks on bottom, lighter rocks on top, and don't do a lot of leaning rocks into each other.
And turbo snails are just evil creatures.
 

daverf

Tang
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#11
I stacked my rockwork directly on the tank bottom, nothing to hold them together except playing around until they stacked/locked in place. I ended up having to tear apart my rockwork to chase out some bad fish. It would have been a nightmare had I actually glued them.
 

Dbarnes

Nurse Shark
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#12
To glue or not

I used fiberglass rods then dipped them in epoxy slid the rocks together and then put them in the tank. I think it looks far better then when I just stacked them in my last tank but yes if I ever had to remove them it is not as convient but let's face it if you have a bunch of in rusted corals on your rock it would be just as bad.
 

ReefCheif

Reef Shark
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#15
I didnt use any glue, epoxy, rods, zipties or anything. I just stacked it like a puzzle right on the glass bottom of the tank. I have numorus columns and arches too. Ive never had anything fall, sink, settle, anything. Im getting ready to re do my stack and Im sure Ill sue some epoxy in a few places, but all and all Im just gonna puzzle it together. Makes it alot easier if you dont like the ifnal product.
 

Cherub

Hey you
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#16
it must be just me but lately I tend to have to move my rocks around looking for things or trying to catch fish. It owuld be much worse if I had glued them all together. If I were to bind them I would likely use the cement type mix that came with my marco rocks.
 

Vance

Angel Fish
#18
If i didn't move every other year or so everything would be glued, drilled, tied and solid. But if thats not an option, if found stacking the rock before its filled with water and without sand makes a sturdier scape. But like i said if it were plausible, my entire rockwork would be mounted together.
 

Cake_Boss

Blue Whale
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#19
Re: To glue or not

Vance;233673 said:
If i didn't move every other year or so everything would be glued, drilled, tied and solid. But if thats not an option, if found stacking the rock before its filled with water and without sand makes a sturdier scape. But like i said if it were plausible, my entire rockwork would be mounted together.
I usually move yearly, having a few rods in there makes restacking really easy
 

kmellon

Butterfly Fish
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#20
anyone have any extra acrylic rods laying around? Think i could find them at a hobby shop? I like the idea of using some rods at least for the base few levels of rock. By the way, is the quickcrete safe for salt water?
 
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