wtb co2 regulator

mathewkofalk

Butterfly Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#1
kind of new to calcium reactors but I bought one from a member and need a regulator for it also a tank a ph prob and some understanding of how to make it work with my reef keeper lite.
 

mathewkofalk

Butterfly Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#3
Lol well I can get one shipped to me for like 80 but that's a good one what brand is this guy also I'd have to find a way to get it so idk let me know

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jda123

Dolphin
M.A.S.C Club Member
#5
You cannot afford to buy a cheap CO2 regulator. At least get a M3 or Pinpoint. If you are really smart, check out the Carbon Doser.
 

Mccoc033

Angel Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#6
When I first started my planted tank I had a cheap regulator. My wife took my daughter and dog for a 45 minute walk. In this time the regulator failed and the co2 was just flooded into the tank. My pH dropped from 6.8 to 4.8 in 45 minutes. Killed everything except the plants that were in heaven.


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deboy69

Nurse Shark
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#7
Mccoc033;273577 said:
When I first started my planted tank I had a cheap regulator. My wife took my daughter and dog for a 45 minute walk. In this time the regulator failed and the co2 was just flooded into the tank. My pH dropped from 6.8 to 4.8 in 45 minutes. Killed everything except the plants that were in heaven.


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Did you have a pH controller on it too?

KCCO
 

jda123

Dolphin
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#8
You cannot really do this to a marine tank since the CO2 is added to a calcium reactor that will shut down or just let the CO2 into the air. It is nearly impossible to crash a tank with a calcium reactor - I only say nearly because I am sure that anything is possible even though I have never heard of it actually happening when the equipment was used right. You can melt media if the regulator fails, but more commonly, it will just be VERY hard to tune and you will end up hating it.
 

Mccoc033

Angel Fish
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#9
I did not have a pH controller. I didn't really think I needed one. I learned my lesson, now I have a regulator with a solenoid linked to a controller instead of a just a regulator.
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#10
One more thing to consider is a single vs dual stage regulator. The quality single stage regulators are reliable...but the common issue with them is that when the pressure of CO2 gets below the threshold of the regulators diaphragm, you run the risk of a large volume of CO2 being evacuated all at once. "End of tank dump" only happens if you don't keep an eye on your gauges...so just be sure you keep that tank filled if you use a single stage reactor. I understand that the reactor and solenoid with a controller offer multiple fail safes...and it may not be a priority to invest in a dual stage regulator, but they do at least offer another safety mechanism to avoid that scenario by using 2 diaphragms.

Also...even though you can technically use the regulator's dial to adjust the flow of CO2 on a good model...you really shouldn't be. They should be full open or full closed...use a needle valve to adjust the flow, it's safer and WAY more accurate to tune that way.
 

jda123

Dolphin
M.A.S.C Club Member
#11
I think that you might be understating how bad that the low quality single stage regulators are. I have not had any issues with the good ones.

I nave never used a regulator. No need, for me. I dial in my bubbles and drips and it just runs.
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#12
jda123;273600 said:
I think that you might be understating how bad that the low quality single stage regulators are. I have not had any issues with the good ones.

I nave never used a regulator. No need, for me. I dial in my bubbles and drips and it just runs.
jahmic;273597 said:
One more thing to consider is a single vs dual stage regulator. The quality single stage regulators are reliable...but
Yea...I was definitely talking about the bad ones. Don't want to scare people away from saving coin...but there are issues with cheap regulators that people are completely unaware of.

I agree that a dual stage regulator might be overkill...and a needle valve isn't 100% necessary, but they do help. If you're not using a high quality steel diaphragm regulator there's a good chance you will be adjusting the flow on occasion...a 40 dollar needle valve can save some headaches, especially if you are using a cheaper regulator. Admittedly the needle valve is less important with a reactor being controlled by a pH probe and solenoid vs a FW planted system, I just always liked the ability to set it and forget it.
 

mathewkofalk

Butterfly Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#13
The reactor has a bublr counter built in maybe that can help me save some coin but looks like il be buying new I haven't had any luck on the used market ........maybe another trip to GWA.

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jahmic

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#14
Try ebay. I picked up a dual stage Concoa barstock body regulator for 40 bucks, and they go for several hundred new. As long as the regulator was used for inert gas (like medical grade oxygen), you can usually buy one used at a fraction of the cost of a used CO2 regulator since the demand for them is much lower. All you'd have to do is swap out the CGA fitting for about 10 dollars and you're in business.
 
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