brown alage or another tank cycle

CRW Reef

Blue Whale
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#81
So you didn't cycle the tank with any livestock in it orginally to build up the bioload?
 

CRW Reef

Blue Whale
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#83
Hmmm getting to be to much for me to prob assist in analysis or corrective measures. Might pm Kris (screen name djkms) as he is the perfect person to help you sort out what's going on maybe.
 

deboy69

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On a side not my peppermint shrimp went missing and today I found its shell being spit up by my RBTA. Would that have anything to do with the ammonia levels?
 

daverf

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A few other ideas:

I would vinegar wash/scrub your mixing vats since you have phosphate testing there and are using RODI water. If you're not using containers that leach or retain phosphates (even some rubbermaids do), then you still could be fighting yourself if you used them to store/cook/clean any live rock/sand. If your mixing vat has phosphates showing in tests, I think you need to resolve that issue.

-You could get your water tested somewhere to make sure you really have ammonia. I've heard the API tests sometimes register false positive on low ammonia (or that people are just using the color chart wrong). Also, I suggest you use the Seachem phosphates test kit, not the API. The API is not nearly precise enough (for me, API mine showed around 0 when in fact Seacheam showed I had .06, obviously very bad).

-Bacterial supplements have really helped me with some of the startup short-term ammonia issues. I had rock that was fully cycled at my house, but after 3 months I still saw minor ammonia spikes when I was doing things to the tank (moving rock, adding fish, etc). You can't really overdose on them if you're having all of these ammonia issues. It is better than Prime in some situations, and Prime can interact with other products even though the label doesn't say.

-IMO the newer rock may be the issue, like ReefChief said. It probably needed to go through a full curing cycle since it wasn't bleached etc but left to dry for 24 hours, and you could just have slow sponge deaths and ongoing die off that continues for awhile. You could up the rocks and pull off any more die off with tweezers, keep doing heavy/frequent water changes to dilute the ammonia spike, and do the bacteria supplements.
 

deboy69

Nurse Shark
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Thanks for the great info. Just test my levels and they are good. Phosphate was .1 so I think I just got some bad water maybe a little phosphate leach. But its coming down
 
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