Can anemones morph or fade?
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djkms;321419 said:
"True Sunbursts" have yellow tips. Period, end of story. We do this dance every 6 months or so 
This is by far the closest we have to understanding, how possible the "Gucci" Sunburst (as I call them) have possibly morphed into existence. They were likely Colorado Sunbursts, but mixed in with Rose Nems. I know mine and others that are quite orange, with speckled green bases, but NO yellow tips - were all sold as Sunbursts. Hence, the reason people defend their nems as a sunburst, while others that have true sunburts call em out as fakes.
Mine again for reference:
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My guess is if you got yours from ShelbyJK500, it'll look like mine, and not Gonzos.
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If it is a rainbow with yellow tips then its not a rainbow, its a sunburst. I have had splits from a sunburst (lineaged from Ki) that have been all rose with yellow tips. I have had splits that had a ton of green, to orange to yellow. Some all orange to yellow tip. These have all been splits from a lineaged sunburst. There are always some that look better than others but the tell tale sign has been and always will be, yellow tips. I have dealt a LOT with sunbursts. At some points Premier has had over 2-300 sunbursts in its possession at a given point in time, we still have numerous in our accounts. Always yellow tips. I mean yellow, not bleached looking white or pale, but yellow.
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My Funburst has yellow tips and it is not a sunburst. Not even close.
It is more likely that somebody along the line got some wild 'nems that were pretty close. They probably had gotten the real deal along the way and got the upstream lineage people to say that they had legit specimens. They sold the impostors with the pedigree of the real thing. This has been pretty common for a long time with high priced stuff.
It is more likely that somebody along the line got some wild 'nems that were pretty close. They probably had gotten the real deal along the way and got the upstream lineage people to say that they had legit specimens. They sold the impostors with the pedigree of the real thing. This has been pretty common for a long time with high priced stuff.
Can anemones morph or fade?
That is the name of the thread...I'm sure the question was brough on by our discussions of lemond drop - sunburst - funburst(fake sunburst = funburst).
Since some have been told the sunburst can end up turning yellow under certain lighting, now all of a sudden you are asking well is a lemon drop a well matured sunburst with all yellow and no orange. Just like is a funburst a sunburst without the yellow tips?
One of those articles posted above stated that the BTA's actually have sexes and that splitting isn't the only way they reproduce....so if that is true then a sunburst could technically "Breed" with another and create a whole new morph.
IE the Roses being kept with the Sunburst creating the Funburst. Obviously the conversation wants to gravitate towards the sunburst/funburst/lemondrop conversation.
We can use the sunburst anemone conversation as the easiest bridge to have this conversation. However, lets try and add examples and additional information that will assist in educating everyone.
Like my Funburst that no longer is that very bright orange without the yellow tips. (changing due to tank conditions).
My new sunburst that is really a beautiful orange with the yellow tips.
Both being kept in LED's and how i'm going to see how they change as i increase my lighting and the "true sunburst" being in the same tank conditions as the "funburst" who has probably not had enough lighting.
edit: I don't think that my funburst will EVER look like my sunburst does...no matter the conditions.
That is the name of the thread...I'm sure the question was brough on by our discussions of lemond drop - sunburst - funburst(fake sunburst = funburst).
Since some have been told the sunburst can end up turning yellow under certain lighting, now all of a sudden you are asking well is a lemon drop a well matured sunburst with all yellow and no orange. Just like is a funburst a sunburst without the yellow tips?
One of those articles posted above stated that the BTA's actually have sexes and that splitting isn't the only way they reproduce....so if that is true then a sunburst could technically "Breed" with another and create a whole new morph.
IE the Roses being kept with the Sunburst creating the Funburst. Obviously the conversation wants to gravitate towards the sunburst/funburst/lemondrop conversation.
We can use the sunburst anemone conversation as the easiest bridge to have this conversation. However, lets try and add examples and additional information that will assist in educating everyone.
Like my Funburst that no longer is that very bright orange without the yellow tips. (changing due to tank conditions).
My new sunburst that is really a beautiful orange with the yellow tips.
Both being kept in LED's and how i'm going to see how they change as i increase my lighting and the "true sunburst" being in the same tank conditions as the "funburst" who has probably not had enough lighting.
edit: I don't think that my funburst will EVER look like my sunburst does...no matter the conditions.
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I think what we are getting at is that if its only yellow tips that make it a sunburst then many people have overpaid when you can get one with yellow tips and rose, green and orange colors in it for under 80.
I personally like the Gucci sunburst best lol
http://wamas.org/forums/topic/35250-orange-flame-bubble-tip-anemone/
Orange flame has yellow tips, orange tentacles and a green base. I can order these for under $100 so guess I need to start selling them as sunbursts since they have yellow tips.
I personally like the Gucci sunburst best lol
http://wamas.org/forums/topic/35250-orange-flame-bubble-tip-anemone/
Orange flame has yellow tips, orange tentacles and a green base. I can order these for under $100 so guess I need to start selling them as sunbursts since they have yellow tips.
Yes, you saw my 2 funburst when i first got them. I got rid of one of them and got a true sunburst last weekend from Ki. So I know 100% i have a real one no messing around.
The Funburst in the months since you came over has lost ALOT of color it is definately dull orange now. I can only see that real nice orange when it shrivles up and the color is concentrated. I have only been running my 12 watts of blue led in this time....i've just this week slowly started my whites. I'm going to try and get the funburst to color back up. And at the same time see how the sunburst changes / keeps color.
edit: with the full light on i was measuring around 200-300 par at about 1/2 down in my tank around the location the funburst sits...since i was running 1/2 then it would have been around 100-150 par. Basically i'm going to double the par it gets and see how that effects color.
It doesn't seem to affect the health because the thing is always extended and healthy looking. Also it never is stretching for light...i've seen a lot of tanks that have anemone and they are just REACHing for the light. Interesting that it lost so much color under just the blue's and it isn't stretching for light. Interested to see how the White LED's effect its coloring. Wish i could just add some UV to the mix, but maybe later after i see how things change in the coming months.
The Funburst in the months since you came over has lost ALOT of color it is definately dull orange now. I can only see that real nice orange when it shrivles up and the color is concentrated. I have only been running my 12 watts of blue led in this time....i've just this week slowly started my whites. I'm going to try and get the funburst to color back up. And at the same time see how the sunburst changes / keeps color.
edit: with the full light on i was measuring around 200-300 par at about 1/2 down in my tank around the location the funburst sits...since i was running 1/2 then it would have been around 100-150 par. Basically i'm going to double the par it gets and see how that effects color.
It doesn't seem to affect the health because the thing is always extended and healthy looking. Also it never is stretching for light...i've seen a lot of tanks that have anemone and they are just REACHing for the light. Interesting that it lost so much color under just the blue's and it isn't stretching for light. Interested to see how the White LED's effect its coloring. Wish i could just add some UV to the mix, but maybe later after i see how things change in the coming months.
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Hugely different splits, from the same mother:
http://www.marinecolorado.org/forums/showthread.php?14564-Sunburst-Anemone-s-for-sale
http://www.marinecolorado.org/forums/showthread.php?14564-Sunburst-Anemone-s-for-sale
Kris,
I just wanted to thank you for participating in the discussion. I know for you guys that these conversations can get old. I just hope that we are actually guiding this conversation along a slightly different path.
As for the pigment swapping...that kind of worries me. Would be interested in knowing more about the pigment swap...did they have 2 different anemone...then all of a sudden babies that are a blend of the 2...or did one of then start turning into the other???
I just wanted to thank you for participating in the discussion. I know for you guys that these conversations can get old. I just hope that we are actually guiding this conversation along a slightly different path.
As for the pigment swapping...that kind of worries me. Would be interested in knowing more about the pigment swap...did they have 2 different anemone...then all of a sudden babies that are a blend of the 2...or did one of then start turning into the other???