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Andrew_bram

Tiger Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#21
CRW Reef;257875 said:
Purpose of MASC: The Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado is dedicated to the endorsement, education, and fellowship of marine aquarium hobbyists. We will increase awareness among members and the public of the importance and value of marine ecosystems and their preservation through captive propagation and responsible collection of organisms. We will deepen hobbyists’ knowledge about the husbandry and study of marine plants and animals, increasing the longevity and well being of the creatures in our care.*


MASC is a free place for anyone curious about the hobby, new to the hobby and experienced hobbyists alike. There are no mandatory fees or requirements to partake in 90% of what MASC has to offer.

Everyone including guests just browsing, registered users and badged members all have equal rights to browse the site and participate how they see fit, are comfortable in engaging with and hopefully will all get out if it what they want to get out of it and or achieve. MASC is a great place to turn to for a great wealth of experiences knowledge, that is offered by both registered users and badged members the same, with neither being more qualified than the other.

Fortunately what comes along with the experiences of all users of MASC is the chance to gain friends, meet new people and the ability to engage in fellowship with others with the same passions for the hobby. Again this part is by no means a requirement to use and participate with in the group, but it certainly adds to the fun, as well as the overall well being and strength of the group. There are those whom will choose to embrace that and those whom choose not to, both of which are fine.

Now MASC is not actually a completely free site, meaning there obviously is costs associated with keeping the site live and operational for all users to enjoy. Because MASC is a non-profit (there is not one individual in the entire group financially profiting) it looks to and requires both donations and volunteering from with in the group in order to survive. These donations come in the form of cash donations for membership, cash donations from those whom have simply enjoyed and found great insight from the site and want to give back, cash donations from users whom attend meetings and participate in our raffles and also those whom want to attend and engage in some of our larger frag swaps and conferences. We have dozens of volunteers for everything such as being in the board (again unpaid and without reward), helping setup, manage and run events, donate numerous monies and hard goods to raffle items, donate time in planning events and lastly they do this all for the better good of the club and without the expectancy of reward. Again with out these funds and volunteers MASC would not be able to exist for anyone including both member and non-members.

There are rules within MASC but these are put in place inorder to hopefully keep everyone engaging in MASC homogeneously, not to create dictatorship and or punish others with out reason or thought behind the rule. There will always be those whom disagree and it always in hopes that they will be in minority and that the rules benefit the masses and the group as a whole.

It is important to remember that each person will get out of MASC what they alone choose. If one chooses to fully engage in the group and participate in meetings, join us in fundraisers to help fellow reef enthusiasts, give back to the club financially or in fellowship to help support it and take advantage to the other 10% of what MASC offers; that's great and we welcome anyone and everyone to do so. If you would like simply to engage in saltwater reef keeping conversation, learn new things about the hobby, take advantage of our usually awesome classifieds section, join us at gatherings as your time allows; that is great as well and we welcome everyone to participate as they see fit.

Bottom line, everyone on MASC is equal as far what they want to get and take away from the site. There will be those whom will embrace newcomers/those whom don't engage all that often and then there are those that won't. Again this is a free site for all to enjoy equally and to take away and give back what they please. It is important to remember like with all of technology that allows us to communicate with out physically talking in person that emotions can not always be accurately interpreted and what the person is saying on the other end isn't always being perceived how they were intended. So please take everything with a grain of salt when it is perceived that the other person is taking a authoritarian stance. Everyone needs to feel welcome, respect others as fellow reef enthusiasts and appreciate the great assest MASC is and what its users both non-members and members have to offer.

In closing, MASC invites anyone and everyone to participate on the site as they see fit. It is encouraged to engage in the group as you can or want in hopes of bettering and strengthening the depth of experiences of the community, but again is this by no means a requirement. We hope that those of you whom find value in the site, community and what it has to offer will join us as you can not only here on the forum but also at our meetings, fundraisers and conferences. We are all on this site because of our interest, love, enjoyment and or passion for the hobby and it is important that we maintain that as the first and foremost emphasis when dealing with anything related to the group. Lets continue to help the hobby grow here in Colorado and lets encourage others to join us in this awesome and amazing hobby.

*** Disclaimer***
These are my thoughts solely as a participant of MASC and a complete addict of the reef keeping hobby, not the voice of the entire BOD, an officer of the BOD or anyone whom has anything to gain by broadcasting opinion. If anyone would like to discuss things further in private, please pm me and we can discuss any thoughts, criticisms and or suggestions you might have.
Well said
 

DyM

Sting ray
M.A.S.C Club Member
#22
My goal is to have more posts than Rob. Hahaha. Another one for me.. But still behind....
 

jahmic

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#33
bush8984;257900 said:
Don't forget to grow ur fro out
HA! I was totally rockin the fro with a burgundy members only jacket in the 80s...I should bring it back.

edit: the jacket...not the fro. That'd be pretty impossible at this point :p
 

2sweet

Butterfly Fish
#34
Cindy needs a pink jacket.....teeheehee
 

Dr.DiSilicate

Administrator
Staff member
M.A.S.C Club Member
M.A.S.C. B.O.D.
MASC Vice-President
#35
jda123;257902 said:


90% of the time, MASC users are equal all of the time.
No one, I mean NO ONE, is my equal! While doing the Harlem shake!

And derick, you do participate in a very positive (opinionated) way. Based on real experience. That's what I like to see! Thanks. On the other hand, I was a leaker for years and really appreciated reading about other people's tanks. Helped me out a lot. I was a "non member" for about three years! My comments were only to try to explain what many people experienced. The site had a rash of "craigslist type people" I think many people are misunderstanding what I was meaning.

Always remember! No one ismy equal! Doin the shake! Lol
 
#36
Wow and I thought my 13 year old daughters face book page had a lot of drama LOL

The best fraz quote ever
Can't we all just get along

Ahahahahahaha

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FinsUp

According to my watch, the time is now.
M.A.S.C Club Member
#37
"Why has there been so much hostility toward non members as of late? like someone telling another person to go to cl instead of this forum? really? is that necessary?"

What hostility are you seeing? I've seen none.
Suggesting that someone post their stuff on CL is not always hostile or unwelcoming. It's sometimes intended as a helpful gesture, but it can be taken the wrong way if it isn't worded carefully.

"I can understand when doing business to give the members first dibs, i get that and agree with it, but to tell others they arent welcome unless they pay the dues or attend the meetings and become a member is something i want no part of."

Where/when did this happen? I've never seen anything like that here. That's not what this club is about. Not saying that there aren't some jerks in it, because there are, but in my experience they are a very small minority.

"There is a lot of discrimination going on around here between members and non members. I helped few members and non members at this site but since I noticed that the board members are discriminating between members and non members when it comes to sell items, well guess what? I don't feel welcomed at this place. So that's why I just briers and don't discuss any topic any more. Feels like this place is turning to reef central!!!"

How about details? Got specific examples? Or did you just take advantage of the opportunity to stir drama?

"I am not a member nor do I live in CO yet but reading this is making me not want to join."

As with any group, there are those who just want to complain and start stuff. They're definitely in the minority, despite the loud and inflammatory posts they feel comfortable making online. When you do move back home, you'll find that the majority of us are helpful, welcoming, and happy, if you don't jump to conclusions based on incomplete information seen from a distance. Totally up to you, tho.

"I am a "member" and I used to enjoy this forum...I don't so much anymore and it is not because of the "non-members"."

Well, that was neither constructive nor terribly specific. It appears as though you simply wanted to gripe, not contribute in a way that leads to improvements. Mission accomplished.

"More each day however, in my option, this forum has more rules and is becoming like the site most here hate so much - Reef Central. ~~ Getting warnings for saying offensive things... breaking the rules and getting warnings or suspended for a time."

Any group is going to have rules about what is acceptable behavior and what isn't. Otherwise, you have arbitrary decision making by the powers that be, which just means enforcing unwritten rules. I don't think anyone wants that.

"I have been to enough meetings and shows and stuff. Some of you have seen me there. I don't sign in because if there are going to be two "classes" of people, I want to be in with the lower one, which I feel, personally, is the right side of that grey (or is it gray) line.

I have not bought a few things on here that I would have otherwise bought because they had different prices for members vs. non. Could have gotten the member price. Sure. Maybe. I don't know. I just didn't have the inclination to ask.

To me, it breaks down like this... Leadership or management? Parameters or process. Highest-common-demoninator or lowest-common-demoninator. If there was a few bad eggs, then whip their asses and send them on their way and be transparent about what happened and why so that it can be avoided in the future (highest common denominator). Putting in more process that hurts the rest because of the few is bad leadership - actually, it is not leadership. Anybody know a successful business that is not government based that works this way - not likely many... the actions a few bad do not need to ruin it for the many good. Again, in my opinion only, this is bad process-based management that goes to the lowest common denominator. Yet again, in my personal opinion, even if a few bad experiences still slip through the classifieds (the example given), it is WAY, WAY better than punishing the rest.

If the forum is really about active hobbyists, then I might suggest that you will get more if everybody is equal."

If you actively choose not to take advantage of your level of participation in club activities due to some odd philosophy about membership being a bad thing, then that's entirely your choice. But then don't expect to be treated like a member and given member discounts if you choose to turn down membership. Your thought process is entirely illogical, but if it works for you that's great. Here's the thing- if you want to be allowed to make your own choices, don't then sit back and criticize others for making their own choices- such as offering discounts to members. That's hypocritical.
As for your griping about having too many rules, and your stated preference for the BOD to arbitrarily kick people out without warnings or due process, that's ridiculous. To say that the openly stated rules and procedures of this club are wrong by their very existence, and that it's better to just privately punish a few bad apples is asinine. Whether you like it or not, any group is going to have rules. You, and others in this thread, are actively trying to pressure people in the group to follow a 'treat everyone the same' rule. Again, completely illogical, and distinctly out of touch with reality.

The fact of the matter is that some people contribute more, and there's nothing wrong with them being treated better as a result. That's life. Some people get along better with others, and do more to help each other than they do for strangers, or for people who they know to be users or moochers. That's life. There are always going to be rules. That's life, too.


PLENTY of people have chimed in to say that most of the folks here are helpful, welcoming, and share a passion for this hobby. That's absolutely true, in my experience. New folks come in all the time, and post up questions, tank issues, and so forth, and they get tons of responses, offers of help, and sometimes personal guidance in real time from fellow hobbyists. The prices in the classified section are almost always below market value. Plus, there's an entire DBTC program for free corals (and sometimes other things that can't be chopped up and spread around). Most people enjoy all of that without paying a dime to the club, or volunteering at an event, and that's fine. It absolutely isn't necessary. We are here to help each other. Sometimes, people take advantage of that, and we get irritated. Enough times of that happening, and helpful people start reducing the amount of help that they're willing to give to strangers.

If attending 2 meetings a year is simply too much for you to handle, or you refuse to spend the equivalent of a coral frag, then you don't get access to sponsor discounts, discounts on some private sales where the owner of the item does tiered pricing, or some of the other benefits that members get. (Much like I don't get military or senior discounts, nor do I get to live in an assisted living home where I'd have an entire staff of people cleaning up after me or making sure I eat right. And if I didn't pay the annual fee to Costco, I couldn't buy 100 rolls of toilet paper at a time, either.) Big deal. You still have access to a large group of people who share a love for fish and corals, and spend too much time dinking around with water chemistry. What you do with that access is entirely up to you. You can just lurk and read, or you can ask questions, offer your own input, make some friends, etc. What you get out of it is usually directly related to what you put into it.
 

rmougey

Tang
M.A.S.C Club Member
#38
I need some like buttons!! :)
 

rmougey

Tang
M.A.S.C Club Member
#40
I need some like buttons!! :)
 
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