Selling Raffle items on Craigslist

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cdrewferd

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Here's my issue. With all the "jumping to conclusions" that the club seems to have had lately, did anybody send an email to figure out who's tank this is? If nobody did the this is the blind blaming that I'm tired of and may be taking a break from the forum for a while.
 

303travism

Dolphin
M.A.S.C Club Member
#22
Craigslist Deal of the Day

This is my point of view on this if you win something buy something it's yours to do with as you wish and really it's nobodies business what you do with YOUR property.
 

Boogie

Dolphin
M.A.S.C Club Member
#23
Re: Craigslist Deal of the Day

+1 with dvenson. Its theirs to do what they want with. They paid for it and won it fair and square. If they want to sell it or use that is their decision. If you dont like their decision to sell, dont buy it.

Enough with the damn drama already...

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Djmm1177

Butterfly Fish
M.A.S.C Club Member
#24
+1 done with the drama I feel that who ever wins this stuff can do whatever they want with this stuff who are we to judge.if as a club member u don't like it then stop having drawings. I feel that club members are pushing good people away by being so judgmental. And if u have a problem with what someone is doing take it up with them. Isnt this Craig's list deal of day??
 

303travism

Dolphin
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#25
Craigslist Deal of the Day

KhensuRa;228274 said:
What the hell is up with all the drama, I know eveyone has a right to expressing thier two cents, but damn give it a rest for a day or two.
+1
 

CRW Reef

Blue Whale
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ex-officio
#26
Re: Craigslist Deal of the Day

Ok we can put this one to rest and move on with the regular craigslist postings. I agree we can end the drama and move forward with bettering the MASC community by eliminating it. I apologize for my addition to the drama.
 

daverf

Tang
M.A.S.C Club Member
#27
I can only speak for myself...

I bought a lot of raffle tickets for Don's tank back in August. I had absolutely no need for another tank, and at the time I thought, if I win this, I will likely sell it at a (far) below market price (hopefully to a MASC member). However, the primary reason I bought them was to kick in money for the club's fundraise. In this case, for Don's family, it was a particularly dear cause to me.

I haven't had many opportunities to attend meetings because I have a lot of kids. I really have not needed any supplies or equipment, however I likely would have kicked in raffle ticket buys to support MASC fundraises (and likely would have sold for "profit" whatever I won). I say "profit" with quotes because...the hobby costs significant money...personally I don't see any margin I make on selling anything (no matter its cost to me) as "profitable".

Since now that I understand that many (maybe half?) of the group would view this as insulting, I probably will never buy tickets in a raffle. I don't want to insult the community.

All that said, my bigger concern would be on behalf of MASC's fundraising. If a large percentage of the club is in my shoes (whether that is 1/10th...1/3rd...half...I have no clue)...then I would be afraid that the club's fundraise from raffle draws could substantially decline if this activity is frowned upon. Further, it could be a catch 22 for the vendors...the bigger that MASC fundraises are or become, the more opportunity vendors have to get "hype/word of mouth" marketing by donating something big for a raffle...conversely, if the fundraises are small or start dwindling, they wouldn't get much benefit from participating and likely may do smaller or token donations. As a small business owner, personally I would want to donate product for fundraisers where wide appeal is most possible, and couldn't care less if raffle winners flipped the product I gave to a club as soon as they won...but that's just me, not sayin' that our vendors would feel this way.

Lastly I would just suggest that, if this activity is officially frowned upon, there should be a MASC rule stating that this activity may draw a club ban (or whatever penalty is decided...raffle participation etc). Either it is officially OK or officially not OK, so as to avoid community anger on how one side or the other interprets.

Again, just my own point of view to throw out there...I'm good with whatever community-wide decision is (and also am glad to know it so I don't offend now or in the future)...
 

CRW Reef

Blue Whale
M.A.S.C Club Member
ex-officio
#28
Re: Craigslist Deal of the Day

Just to clarify there is no rule against selling won raffle items. Also I only was voicing my sole opinion and it was not a voice of MASC nor the opinion or voice of other BOD members. So with that being said I encourage all to continue to donate and participate in MASC functions/raffles and continue to give your support as you have all done in the past.

Again I apologize for my part of adding/creating drama and both hope and trust we can move on to greater, bigger and more positive things in our community.

We have some major events and activities coming up and look forward to the communities continued involvement and support.
 

cdrewferd

Reef Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#29
Ok, now I really have a problem. If this gets me banned or whatever, I don't care.

In the original post you said some very nasty things. Now because some people didn't like it you went back and made it sound all happy day, just pointing something out. So do you stand by your original wording or not? Was it just a heat of the moment post that had no fore thought about how the members would take it?

Right now, I don't care that it was Evans tank. What I do care about is the blindless and tastless way that this was handled. If we, as memebers, are supposed to be thinking about what we're saying and not cause drama, then shouldn't we expect a lot more from our BoD and especially the VP?

Chad, I understand that you were voicing your own opinion. But how is a new user, or somebody that doesn't know you, supposed to seperate anything you say from the opinion of the BoD?

I will say this. I am going to be taking a break, at least a couple weeks, from the forum. I'm tired of the drama, that keeps coming up no matter who or what it is, and I just need a break. Those of you that have my number know how to get a hold of me.

Have a good couple weeks everyone.
 

scchase

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#30
How is a BoD member supposed to say things as themselves rather than the BoD. Should someone not be allowed to express how they feel about things just because they are on the BoD? He said he made mistake in the way that he posted it.
 

ReefCheif

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#31
cdrewferd;228396 said:
Here's my issue. With all the "jumping to conclusions" that the club seems to have had lately, did anybody send an email to figure out who's tank this is? If nobody did the this is the blind blaming that I'm tired of and may be taking a break from the forum for a while.

I think this about sums it up. With 100s of people in the hobby who are not part of this club or forum roaming the state to make such a broad assumption is just completley rediculous. Assumption is the mother of all **** ups!
 

MartinsReef

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#32
Re: Selling Raffle items on Craigslist

Can we all move passed this? Lets get back to reefing, please!

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Cake_Boss

Blue Whale
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#33
Re: Selling Raffle items on Craigslist

Guys, feel free to take a break from the forums for a bit, I do it all the time. Sometimes things get said that make me so angry, especially when others don't see my side, it happens. I take this break to just gripe about stuff, off the forum. When I'm over it, I come back to this great group of friends. Sometimes I'm more vocal about the "break" then other times.

Here's my story, I took a break from the forum (the hobby too), and pursued other passions. I was so glad to be done with the "drama." The thing was that I truly missed talking with my friends, and some acquaintances, about what I was really wanting to talk about (the hobby). I found myself talking about it with co-workers, that had no idea what I was talking about. I even joined other forums, in hopes that I would find another great group. The thing is that most other groups aren't exactly "inviting". I started lurking on MASC again, I saw my of friends posting/laughing/joking, I wanted back in. So I finally logged in again, low and behold, it was as if I never left.

What's the point? Go ahead and take your breaks, we'll be right here waiting to laugh and joke when you decide to come back. At least I will.
 

FinsUp

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MartinsReef;228522 said:
Can we all move passed this? Lets get back to reefing, please!

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+1
Now about Reefstock... any idea when we'll get a full list of raffle items and times, so I can plan my attack?
 

Ambrosio Aquatics

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#36
Dbarnes;228263 said:
+1000000 that's ridiculous to say no one should comment on it... U serious? A business and friend of MASC donated that tank! Our community should be upset, as many individuals who were not as lucky that day would have loved to setup this tank and be a greater part of this community! Not sell it for profit!
+ infinity!
 

FinsUp

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#37
H2O_intolerant;228525 said:
Guys, feel free to take a break from the forums for a bit, I do it all the time. Sometimes things get said that make me so angry, especially when others don't see my side, it happens. I take this break to just gripe about stuff, off the forum. When I'm over it, I come back to this great group of friends. Sometimes I'm more vocal about the "break" then other times.

Here's my story, I took a break from the forum (the hobby too), and pursued other passions. I was so glad to be done with the "drama." The thing was that I truly missed talking with my friends, and some acquaintances, about what I was really wanting to talk about (the hobby). I found myself talking about it with co-workers, that had no idea what I was talking about. I even joined other forums, in hopes that I would find another great group. The thing is that most other groups aren't exactly "inviting". I started lurking on MASC again, I saw my of friends posting/laughing/joking, I wanted back in. So I finally logged in again, low and behold, it was as if I never left.

What's the point? Go ahead and take your breaks, we'll be right here waiting to laugh and joke when you decide to come back. At least I will.
Well put! I think you should consider taking a short little break from the hobby entirely. Maybe a week or so. Not that this has anything to do with raffles or anything. Not at all. You know, just one friend trying to help another stay sane. :smokin:
 

Haulin Oates

Reef Shark
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#39
Selling Raffle items on Craigslist

CindyL;228535 said:
Well put! I think you should consider taking a short little break from the hobby entirely. Maybe a week or so. Not that this has anything to do with raffles or anything. Not at all. You know, just one friend trying to help another stay sane. :smokin:
Haha!! I see what you did there... Genius!!
 
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